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JayEm
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 Posted - 06/19/2008 : 12:11:20
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Well, I made the jump to WD’s 250GB drive on my 7010D. I had been running a 160GB drive but it was 2/3s full. Problem is that when I tried to Ghost the image over to the 250, I was looking at 32+ hours of transfer time. I have the lack of USB 2.0 driver/Ghost problem that I’ve seen elsewhere so I cancelled the process. Not wanting to run the laptop for that long, I put both drives in enclosures and opted to image the new drive with my desktop and XXCLONE free. In about 2 hours, XXCLONE finished and I made the drive bootable and duplicated the volume ID with Cool Tools. I’ve done this twice with the same result. The files look identical on both drives. Both times when the laptop boots from the 250, it hangs at the light blue, dark blue Windows XP logo screen. I’ve created a boot.ini file, run fixboot, fixmbr without luck. System BIOS recognizes the drive as a 250. When I look at the drive with Bart PE running, the drive is called Local Disk C. One thing I noticed that seemed strange was when the larger HD was booted up the first time, Windows didn’t say anything about finding a larger hard drive and installing it. Maybe it happened and I missed it. I’ve put the old drive back in and it booted OK, then put the new drive in and it hangs.
I read elsewhere about problems with drives being named and then Windows having problems reassigning drive letters. On the second clone, I used disk management and removed the drive letter (G) that was used when the drive was in the enclosure but that didn’t help. Anybody have any ideas? Till then, the 160 is back in and running fine but I would like to use the 250 without having to clone the image for as long as Ghost wants to take.
Jay
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CLLO
New Member
USA
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Posted - 06/24/2008 : 23:48:40
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JayEm,
I did my 160 to 250 using Ghost on a PC also. I did it on the PC's IDE bus and ran Ghost (2003) using DOS. I did not experience that problem.
But, I did experience something similar to what you described with a few Desktop upgrade. It happens only when, while I was still on the old drive, I used the new drive as a secondary drive first prior to ghosting the OS over.
I modified my desktop solution as method 1 below. This solved my similar problem on desktop, but similar does not mean exact. It may not be the same one you encountered on the P7010. Unless you can make a backup to yet another drive first, I actually recommend doing method 2. The drawback with method 2 is you may need to reactivate Windows again, and you may need to rebuild your user profile again.
Method 1
(0) Basic idea is, after ghost, make sure you first boot the 250 (as drive 1) with the 160 in tow (as drive2), so both drives are available while booting the 250 the first time. Only after XP finish marking everything before we remove the 160.
(1) Ghost it from the 160 to the 250 again
(1a) Best is if you also ghost the 160 to a backup drive also at this time.
(2) At this time, the 250 is an exact but larger image of the 160. Install the 250 but BEFORE you boot XP using the 250, make sure your 160 is plugged in to the USB and it is recognized ¡V best boot DOS first to see if you indeed have two drives, 250 being drive 1 and the 160 being drive 2. Your BIOS needs to have SCSI subclass enabled for the USB drive to work. Legacy USB enabled may work better also.
(3) Now boot XP with the 250 installed, and the 160 on the USB.
(4) Let XP finish booting and discover whatever it needs discovering. At this stage, the 160 is still in-tow on the USB.
(5) Once it is done booting, shutdown and restart again. It should discover nothing new.
(6) Now shut down, remove USB, and boot again.
(7) It may discover new stuff again, that¡¦s ok. When you finish, it will (should) be able to work with the 250 solo, with or without the 160 in tow ¡V or, if what I think was the problem but wasn¡¦t and now something is screwed¡K you need to reload windows (hence I suggest a backup first).
Method 2
(1) Find SysPrep on the XP-Pro¡¦s distribution CD.
(2) Sysprep your machine with the 160 as your drive.
(3) After SysPrep shutdown your system upon completion, ghost the syspreped image to the 250
(4) Now the 250 should work, but it will require the mini-setup again
(5) I forgot if mini-setup will wipe out your previous user name. Make sure you specify the ¡§first user¡¨ being some other name and your previous normal user name. If mini-setup doesn¡¦t wipe it out, you can log in using your previous user name and all is well. If it does wipe out the previous user, you will need to recreate the user by that name and move files from the old previous user¡¦s profile directory over to the new one.
Good Luck!
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JayEm
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2008 : 19:38:53
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CLLO,
Thanks for the reply. Before I found it though, I got the 250 to boot up. What I did was used the 7010D restore disk and installed everything to factory specs on the 250. I did this just to see if the 250 would boot up OK. It did. Of course all my stuff was wiped out. (Probably too much STUFF anyhow according to the late George Carlin). After that, I repeated my process of using XXCLONE and the 2 laptop drives in USB cases with my Desktop. This time I didn't select to make the 250 bootable with cool tools. It did show my 250 volume ID being the same as the 160 when I tried to select that option. After 2 hours my STUFF was back and the 7010D was booting normally with the 250. Or so I thought. Just today I noticed some of my desktop icons were Windows generic versions instead of the ones representing the programs or URL's. I'm very particular about that and store most of my icons in a file for backup. I went about changing them, but on some of the programs, I couldn't. The option was grayed out. On those I did a repair installation from the program disks and it fixed the icon problem and preserved my program settings. Something must not have copied to the Windows file with XXCLONE. Oh, I forgot, the boot.ini file didn't copy either but I was aware of that from the first two attempts so I just copied it over before disconnecting the drives from the desktop. The page file wasn’t copied either but I figured Windows would rebuild it. Everything has gone fine but ironically, Norton AV 2004 expired yesterday so I was going to uninstall it and go with AVG 8.0 like on my desktop and other laptop. Couldn't uninstall the AV!!! Kept saying I had a newer version installed and had to delete it first. Also, Ghost was installed with System Works. Same thing! I've manually uninstalled Ghost according to the Symantec instructions on their web site and have started their uninstall program for AV 2004. It's been running about 30 minutes and the progress bar has stalled about 1/4 of the way with no disk activity. Just shut the computer off because I couldn’t stop the process and restarted it. This time it finished, so I hope bye-bye Norton AV. I am going to reinstall System Works & Ghost. We will see what happens.
What did you use to plug your 2.5’ drives into the bus on your desktop? If I have to do this all over again, I’m going to use Ghost. I’ve had good luck with it in the past and in fact, I cloned the 100 GB drive that was in the 7010D to the 160 with it but there wasn’t much on it at the time. I just couldn’t see running the laptop for 30 to 50 hours which is what Ghost 2003 wanted because there are no USB 2.0 drivers for it and I didn’t want to invest in version 9.
Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Hopefully this will help someone else out since the 250’s are pretty cheap right now, more might be trying the upgrade.
Jay
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CLLO
New Member
USA
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Posted - 06/27/2008 : 01:10:19
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Glad you got that working...
Live is too short to copy 100gig over USB1. I use an adaptor that converts the 2.5" IDE to 3.5" full size IDE. I got a few at $4 a peice so I can plug both 2.5" into my standard desktop IDE. On Ghost2003 and with the faster desktop, I get about 800meg to 1gig per minute copying drive to drive. Great for occasions like this, and for doing full disk backup.
If you are rebuilding your main drive anyhow, consider breaking the OS into a smaller partition. I have my OS on a 20g partition. I have a second 20g partition (for testing) and the rest of the space for data on my data partition. I keep a ghost image of my OS partition on data partition so I can easily restore my OS to prestine condition. Makes backup and moving around a lot easier.
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XP hangs after clone with XXCLONE
